It was a super meeting place for a great crowd, all feeling very sophisticated drinking coffee from glass cups. Once upon a time in Palmers Green by Alan Dumayne 1988; Fond memories of Winchmore Hill by Alan Dumayne 1990; Semi-detached London, Suburban Development, Life and . I then became a (successful) travel writer and ended up as a journalist for an american newsletter. also the Unigate milkman who had an electric cart and kept saying oh brother. Sylvia, I. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. Nothing wrong in that!..seems the 50s 60s & 70s had a lot going for them, I look at kids today and think theyve missed the best bits! Later, they raised us four kids in York Road. I remember the Coffee place & it wasnt Home & Colonial.. that was a few doors up!! Miss Wrigley used to rattle you back and forward in your desk if you didnt behave. Between Windsor Road and Park Avenue was a greengrocers called Burkes, there were 2 Janes and Adams shops, the toy shop already mentioned, plus 2 doors from that there was the electrical shop an old sign saying Ultra Radio was still up on the front at the first floor (last time I looked). Ill call you a Fcab etc. At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. I remember one of my friends falling into the river off the bridge and clambering out the other side after swimming under the bridge in the river current. My family name was Church but we have moved away now. Also remember Mrs Dark who took 4A, an excellent teacher. The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. There was a bank on one corner of Sidney Avenue which had also been hit. Happy days at Nans. Did your dad run a newspaper stand by The Fox. St. Clements Press. I remember J&As when the windows were boarded, just a square foot to stare in. Happy days playing in the yard out back. An MD with a MBA from Palmers Green | DegreeInfo As Mr. Auger sed want to be a farmer eh-eh-young-un? Im sure Fred Rain lived in the Larches. Wonderful. Magic for post-war Palmers Green teenagers. It is open on Sunday afternoons from 2.00 to 4.30pm Model Boating Pond The Model Boating Pond was dug in 1903, shortly after the opening of the Park. for Joe Hart at Tottenham Muni and Manor ouse Finsbury P, Dick Davis an Billy Cotton etc. One in Tottenhall Rd, Drakes at The Cambridge roundabout & at the Triangle, another at Empire Parade and Dewhurst in Green Lanes opp Tottenhall Rd. Do you mean `Tom the flower man at the Triangle next door to Woolworths? Life is very different now and this great website has brought back lots of lovely memories for me. Laura. An elderly man worked there and a younger surely man. Yes.thats where I learnt to swim. Thanks. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar'. Peter. He was on duty the night a German bomber that had been badly damaged by ack-ack fire abandoned his bomb load on the dance hall above the shops in Green Lanes between Princes Avenue and Tottenhall Road. He had been a prisoner of war and always seemed incredibly nervous. I was in my late teens when it was opened. She was there when I was there in 1940s. Yes..most definitely, I have a memory of a house flattened at the bottom of Park Avenue near to NRC. Hi David, I think I remember you from Winchmore. The mention of Grouts brouht back many memories. The front half was a sweet shop and there was hair all over the floor, The old buzzard who cut the hair used to ask for a tip. I had the best 7 years of my life with Victor, but sadly he died only last month, February 7 of cancer. Before marrying my first wife I too lived in Muswell Hill then Palmerston Road before buying a flat in Woodberry Avenue. Well the years are rolling back! Yes, and the gas fire which hissed and stuttered. You done a bit of boxing? Sylvia Gambin. A saxophonist my father often booked had the first name of Larry. Hello Christine, I do remember the china and glass shop which I went in with my Mother to buy any special gifts for people. I used tio get my school uniform in Evans & Davies. I have a friend who is bit older than me who has lived up near Hedge Lane all her life and she might be able to enlighten us about that mystery when I can contact her. I farms in Cornwall now an apologise for the grammer neglected at Southgate County Grammar (an spellins). Does anyone happen to know? The farmhouse was built in 1720 by a Mrs Childs. Its a hazy memory but I do remember buying a basket for my school books (they were the in thing then) It was a glorious place to live as a child. Hello Raymond, Your memories of Palmers Green are a real Gold Mine. Conway park and blagdens lane were my playground when the old rubbish dump was behind the stables a goldmine of wartime and Victorian memorabilia. This isnt the place to get involved in that discussion so Ill just say that changes arent always for the best! Do you remember the Toy shop opposite too? I used to buy my records from Ashwells which was next door to Lloyds Bank. I worked in that Bricks mens shop in1971. I lived in New River Crescent 1950, 60s and 70s. Seems a long time ago now! Visit Website. Palmers Green 60s To The 70s - a nostalgic memory of Palmers Green Call +44 (0)1722 716376 Archive Shopping Gift Ideas Themes ePostcards Memories Blog Business Home Palmers Green Memories Palmers Green 60s To The 70s Palmers Green 60s To The 70s A Memory of Palmers Green. Saturday morning pictures at the Palladium was always good fun watching Roy Rogers, Flash Gordon etc. Image supplied by Enfield Local Studies and Archive. Few people in those days owned a car, most of us used public . Dear (if I may say so having lived in The Larches since 1937) Reg. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. Thanks David, my son has just shown me some pictures of that dreadful scene at Sidney Ave but I think I must be losing the plot because I really dont remember it being a bomb site after the war. very posh! The buildings opposite however, which was the bombed out Princes Dance Hall, were rebuilt in a totally different style. Just found this by chance and been reading some of the comments as I grew up near this area. Dinky toys and we once had a red motor bike (brand new) for sale. We met at Bowes Road School Tuesday evenings and learnt first aid, home nursing, drill, lots of things. It may be that your memory of PG is slightly off but, as I recall, it was the Home & Colonial grocer shop and it was on the left hand side as one went north towards Winchmore Hill; it was on that side shortly before Devonshire Road, the Fox Inn and Fox Lane, possibly about where the Red Cross shop has been in recent times. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? We lived in North London on the boundary of Palmers Green, N13 and Southgate, N14. I worked in Tesco in Palmers Green when I was 16 years old in roughly 1990. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. Last I heard he was still alive and well in his house in The Meadway, starving comfortably! We had to make our own fun in those days, there were no iPads, computers,,,,,,,,,,, etc. you may ask) too fashionable and hexpensive now thanks to ebay. Patricia loved the picturesbut for me the sing along organ player at Capitol Winchmor ill.. why did we did disagree occasion like.ladies may comment, no rush. Going back a bit who used to run up Fox Lane, stand on the bridge and wait to be covered in steam from the trains . Anyone remember him? There was some credible evidence that the house on the corner of New River Crescent and Hedge Lane in the direction of Green Lanes was haunted. Regards David. Brody & HICKS camera shop was started by me Gerry Hicks Im now retitred living in Cockfosters. Do I get commission on the bet payout? He also made excellent onion omelettes. We always had nice Rose bushes ! There was a big fat man with tattoos who ran it and used the F word all the time. Janes and Adams was my first job after leaving school circa 1959. I used to work weekends 1970-1972 for Kenning Car Hire which Im sure was probably on the site you recall. We lived in Upsdell Avenue from 1941 to 1957. Wonder what happened to him, I would love to know. Spent a few happy days with him and also his parents at their house up by the new river. Think pool is still there. Intimate Memories: The History of the Intimate Theatre, Palmers Green It was a large detached house surrounded by a beautiful garden which took up the whole of that corner site. We bought our first TV off him, black and white of course. Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? Park, and the slide which we used to grease with candle wax in the fifties so that it was so fast you went flying of the end! Hello Brian, Im so glad you remember Dr Baxter. He was very stern and terrified me! Your change would come whizzing back in the rather splendid looking canisters. julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. Hi Raymond, It was Sid Ran your uncle that I remember as a friend of my father, I believe I as at that party you mention but cannot recall the present I received but it may have been a small accordion. However, local schools do still use Arnos Grove, Southgate, Edmonton Green pools etc. As I was only young then, I have no idea why that happened. I was Yvonne Farmer and our form teacher was Mrs Phair. Truly some of the best times of my life in Palmers Green. Dr Stewart was our doctor too. It is the oldest remaining pub in Palmers Green to have continuously stood on the . I started in the infants second year in 1947. Much later in I guess the 70s? Other teachers were Miss Sweeny who would let you ring the bell if it was your birthday, Miss Calcott (horrible) and Mrs Dark. Coronation fireworks display in the park. After my first day in Old olborn never wore the suit agin at work or come to think o it, any suit (retired 1988). The Fox emerges after a long hibernation - Palmers Green Community I attended Bowes Road School and Southgate County Grammar School. PS. Julia. I lived in Burford Gardens from 1954 until 1978,went to Hazelwood school where I had a huge crush on a girl called Hilary Taylor. The guy that ran it looked like Carlos out of Crossroads . would go down there most nights and you need only buy one coffee & that had to last you all evening what great times in there !!!! Just request to join and add your own memories and photos. Firs Farm - Palmers Green Jewel in the North Visit Palmers Green places using Walkfo for free guided tours of the best Palmers Green places to visit. Just found this: The next occupant of the premises was Jays Furnishing Stores, a hire-purchase furniture store first listed in Wards 1911 directory. In 1876 Palmers Green was described as "a little gathering of houses on the road to Enfield", despite the opening of a new railway line from Wood Green to Palmers Green, Winchmore Hill and Enfield in 1871. . I have vague recollections of my mother taking us to what seemed quite a posh tea shop called Shepherds which was on Aldermans Hill opposite the park, does anybody remember this? My parents bought our very first television from them a Bush table model which was also installed by them. I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school David Way of Winchmore Hill Broadway? I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. Singing Tom used to give me all the flower heads to play with. I am Geoffreys sister Carole. You will also find memories from contributors below, and across other pages on the website, where a post has maybe triggered a memory or two, http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/16/a2115316.shtml. Palmers green life feb14 final. Annyone remember that great Destroyer model opposite the counter in J&As, is it still cutttin the seas in defence of our Realm? Hello again, I posted a question about your possible father Fred Rann, but I now realise I meant Sid Rann, was he your father? The money offered was flushed along and up to the cashier in the small glass fronted cash office, high up. She would sit regally on the little wooden chairs by the counter. It was quite good really if you wanted a weatherproof coat and were prepared to go in! Winchester) and was amazed when on a route march or exercise and dreading the eventas soon as we turned the corner from barracks, everyone from Sergeant to PTI had to fall out for a smoke. I used it fir a while to work as a mini cab driver for a bloke called Roy that was in a tacky office opposite Woodberry Avenue (where I lived) in Green Lanes. & knickers etc. In 1961 the company was acquired by Car Mart Sales Ltd, but retained its name. I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. Who remembers Tom the singing flower seller at the top of the access between the buildings? But you are right about the window where you got served. I also attended Hazelwood school and remember Mrs bellefontaine I am now 66 years old. What about the lovely pantos at the Intimate theatre. I also recall Roberts toy shop on the other side. I lived in Winchmore Hill while married and enjoyed the playing field that is now Sainsburys and Baker, butcher and tea shop with the Green by Broadwalk and have fond memories of PG and WH as a young man. A bus going north, was just slowing down to the bus stop opposite when three bombs fell in close proximity. Annyway she sees the ambience of Palmers Greenery so later Dad as to buy a property to satisfy er haspirations Palmer Green wise N14annyway my Palmers Green is Jewell in Crown (I am salutin you er Majesty) no rushkeep crackin on, eh? Didnt stay for long as my parents moved away but certainly enjoyed it whilst I was there. Me The award-winning Orchard was created by volunteers in 2009 on the site of a disused bowling green. Have a nice trip! He was simply the best jiver (having been a professional dancer in his younger days). I used to get home absolutely filthy but so happy. Good lunch time food & very good value. Like a Local: 7 Great Cafes and Restaurants in Palmers Green I think it was late 50s . Our Joe Hart lived in edge Lane opposite Doc. After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. Jeremy Hoare, pictured left aged nine, grew up in Palmers Green, north London, next to an image of him now (Jeremy Hoare/PA) A community radio station presenter has recalled the "fabulous" photographs he took on his Kodak Box Brownie camera as a schoolchild at Queen Elizabeth II's coronation in 1953. My taste dress-wise (MENS) was Bricks across the road, specially them T-shirts. I bought my first motorised bike from them, a cycle master, which had an engine in the back wheel. ps. no NHS .no grudgis but years go on this tripe celebration with fireworks still upsets loads o animals for a month (even pets let alone them foxis an badgers) annually..Annyway ice cream an jellys under a glass case (repro) at the Ritz cinema 1943 in Leyton (before the doodle bugs) but nil else at the Odeon Southgate (2/9 for the best seats and icis (extra) in the interval (with my wife 1959). Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. I have spoken to a friend of mine who was born in the mid 30s & has lived near Hedge Lane most of her life but she doesnt remember a bomb dropping at the top of Hedge Lane. Was this the Barbers that was in a room behind Glossops the sweet and tobacco shop. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. xx, Hi Best wishes In the 50s there was a shop towards the end of Palmers Green (on the right hand side as you went toward Winchmore Hill) that ground coffee. Across Hedge Lane, does anyone remember the wartime pill boxes which stood close to where the trolleybuses made their turn-round at journeys end. We lived in Sidney Avenue from 1952 until 1961. Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? in the 70s I delivered your free paper for a while. I started at Hazelwood school infants in 1965 and I remember the head Mrs Hughes in my first year. I ad no spare cash for new comics in them daysdid you ever deliver the EagleIm payin 8.00 a copy for the good ones now.. My grandparents moved to Palmers Green in 1910. Mr and Mrs Glossop were a very jolly couple always ready to share a yarn. you could add doms cafe where you had a great breakfast there. Doc. Hi Sylvia, No your not dreaming, Dr Baxter was there, he had a huge almond tree near the entrance to the surgery off Hazelwood lane which we would scrumpy almonds from when they started to ripen! I lived in Pateur Gardens From 1950 to 1966 does any one recall the Barrowell Green swimming pool . Baptist No expense spared by Mr.Grout!! New River Crescent was bisected at the foot of Park Avenue. I remember the Brody and Hicks name and Fotovalue. The corner premises were never re-built on and the empty space was then used as an open car forecourt called Kieths Cars. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. I still have a tennis racquet in the loft that I bought from P Green branch when I was about 13/14! My main memory of the Queens Cinema was the film The King and I which I watched there with one of my friends Malcom Oldhill. I also remember going to the Intimate Theatre with my mother every Tuesday evening. Hi Victoria, I remember the milkman well, his horse was called Dobbin and Mum used to get me running out in the road with a bucket and shovel if he dropped his business near us so it would be good for the roses in her garden. I remember the bloke who served there and was a grumpy old git so I suspect this could be the same place. 1955-1957. This marked the spot where lorries slowed, changed gear to ascend New River bridge and I would grab a tailboard chain and be towed up and up Bourne Hill by a Foden on my bicycle (not the Rudge yet) to St. Georges Road and peel off easily to Southgate County School in Fox Lane. Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories - Facebook Doms! I then went to Since opening its doors in 2014, FUFU (meaning lucky) has established itself as one of . and thank you for posting. Doms also made excellent onion omelettes. Wishin you Happy New Year! He took the train each morning from Palmers Green station. I dont remember you should I? memories those were the best days. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. A unique way to experience Palmers Green's places, Walkfo allows you to explore Palmers Green as you would a museum or art gallery with audio guides. weve already ad enough laughs for the day over your conviction that The Sahara Desert is in the middle of Australia. Opposite Grouts well almost. I hated the dumplings at school dinners. I have edited this comment because what it says was of a personal nature and could cause offence. Ta. This was back in the early 60s. Gerry. Thanks very much Saul & Slatter it was! That would have been where visitors could wave to their loved ones in the hospital. Both my cousin and I remember the shop and the smell but not the name of it. Fortunately my mother never chastised me about it. Socks, vests, liberty bodices(!) I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! I went there 1953 1958. yes: miss belfontaine was head of Hazelwood juniors and mis hughes head of infants. Can you imagine leaving two young children in a caf now, you would probably get a visit from Social Services. It was a black moment for Palmers Green as the bodies of the dead & injured were laid out on the pavement. But then came THE GIRLS. With the Winchmore Hill conservation area as a focal point, the district is bounded on the east by Green Lanes (the A105 road), Barrowell Green, Firs Lane and Fords Grove, and on the north-west by Grovelands Park; in the south it extends to part of Aldermans Hill, and in the north . But the mac an the suit attracted my beloved Patricia nee Cable (Winchmore ill) (not me, you unnerstand). 1940, I have enjoyed reading all of your comments, because my Mother was so proud to have lived there, and reminisced so often. They ran the cafe on their own with no other help. So back ome goin West? Remember the bovril machine. Then for a short while it was a Menswear shop that sold high end suits, shoes etc. I do remember though looking at one of those planes that were bombs without pilots (forgot what they were called could it be doodle bug) with my dad and its engine stopped right over head. Next, The Curzon just past the Post Office (not goin in there Raymond, too hexpensive). Meldrum. A lift man too to take you to the upper floor who would call out Corsetry and Carpets. Teachers were Mrs Bear?, Miss Lettice, Mr Pearce and his friend Sammy Slipper if the boys were naughty. Hi Gerry, Im nearly retired and living in Australia, you may remember my father Aubrey Todd who ran Kelvin Photos. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. I went to Brownies and Guides at that church too! One called Bourlet (nr Smokers Paradise) & Hinds which was almost opposite I think. Is it still haunted? It is now a tyre suppliers and fitters. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. Dordrecht, Netherlands. He played an accordion and the drums for many of the big orchestras and hotels in central London. Helen. Remember Reg Hart who has posted here- he was interested in meteorology back then. Also Jack the window cleaner who lost a leg at the Somme. You even remember the prices! Palmers Green is mentioned as a highway in 1324 (in Westminster Abbey Muniments ). But we used to dangle fishing lines from the river bridge in Hazelwood lane in an effort to catch something. I was born in Southgate in October 1936 and lived with my parents at 6 Tintern Gardens until September 1956, when they moved to Willingdon, Eastbourne. I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc.