George Ward asks Jenny Kile Six Questions! Astrological Sign: Leo, Death Year: 1935, Death date: October 24, 1935, Death State: New Jersey, Death City: Newark, Death Country: United States, Article Title: Dutch Schultz Biography, Author: Biography.com Editors, Website Name: The Biography.com website, Url: https://www.biography.com/crime/dutch-schultz, Publisher: A&E; Television Networks, Last Updated: August 10, 2020, Original Published Date: April 2, 2014. His violent life caught up with him, eventually, but not before leaving behind a trail of blood, mayhem, and perhaps a buried treasure. The Dutchmans stone cipher map had an exploded view of a section of the Salt river and the word north in the lower border of the map to give the individual a starting point towards the general area. In the 1920s, Schultz became involved in bootlegging during the Prohibition and became associated with the likes of gangsters .css-47aoac{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#A00000;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-47aoac:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}Lucky Luciano and Legs Diamond. Learning to use common sense properly is the best clues I can give to another treasure hunter. A man rambling on his deathbed. How so? 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Schultzs loyal bodyguard and driver, who was the only person stated to be with Schultz when he hid the treasure, died during the 1935 hit as well. History will teach you what a pirate did or could have done. Steve Palace is a writer, journalist and comedian from the UK. After Schultz tried to kill a federal prosecutor disregarding other powerful mobsters' warnings to back off gangster rivals arranged for Schultz's murder, and a hit man shot him in a restaurant in Newark, New Jersey, on Oct. 23, 1935. The maps themselves will describe a large area first followed by a smaller general area before leading you into the immediate location. Everything you see, everything you hear, and everything you know will help you figure out the the map. Theres no concrete evidence that the treasure exists. Since Im not ending with I found the treasure!, I didnt. Mindy studied film at Columbia University; prior to Live Science she produced, wrote and directed media for the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. That how he met my grandma. Maybe look down there with metal detectors since it was out of metal/iron, Good luck. Transcripts and interviews of several folks living on rt 28 and in town back in the late 50s said they wouldnt waste anytime looking near the creeks,river, tracks or the roads, because of the horrible flooding in the area from the 36 & 55 hurricanes Hey enjoy skin diving in the reservoir!!!! According to former FBI Special Agent Jack French, that angered the powerful New York Crime Syndicate: The syndicate was a confederation of New York City mobsters who controlled virtually all the crime in the Manhattan area. Who still cares about a Prohibition-era tough guy gunned down in a . It all depends on who you ask. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Seeking Forrests treasure is not such a hop, skip and jump! In 1969, the same year Mario Puzo published "The Godfather," Burroughs published "The Last Words of Dutch Schultz," a 115-page book written in the form of a film script, complete with directions for camera angles and sound effects. Its also possible the treasure never existed or was already found. Afraid of being sent to jail by Prosecutor Dewey, Schultz had a special safe constructed and used it to hide cash and bonds worth $7 million. Dutch swore Lulu to secrecy and then supposedly marked the site by carving an X into the trunk of a nearby tree. And that Devils Face is definitely creepy. MU Plus+ Podcasts. Are you his child? All rights reserved (About Us). Its hard to believe anyone who say they have found it without hard evidence. Schultz served 17 months in prison for burglary, the only prison time he ever saw in his life. You are now leaving Unsolved.com and heading to our shop at: http://www.blurb.com/search/site_search?search=Dutch+Schultz+missing+millions. We strive for accuracy and fairness.If you see something that doesn't look right,contact us! I have hard something About that hes chest was waterproof. The authorities weren't finished with him yet, especially New York special prosecutor Thomas E. Dewey. Before he was killed, he was said to have buried a treasure trove in the Catskill Mountains. My family owned a chop shop in manhattan for the mob that friend that received the map was in fact killed. The imagination runs wild. And if it remains there is another. He had met dutch schultz a few times ran some loads for him. During the 1930s, the two were embroiled in a vicious gang war, which led a number of men dead in both camps. Almost a century later, Schultz's mythical cache of riches has yet to be discovered. So would a mobster say..Go look here and take my money. OR SAY, Go look here so I can have the last laugh as you waist your time.. An honest man cannot say more than what he doesnt know. Which again, was conveniently left off the map. Honestly if it does exist the Dutchmen would hide it where NO ONE WOULD FIND IT. Schultz would likely have avoided banks and stashed his ill-gotten loot in places where it couldn't be traced or taxed, and Schultz's lawyer Dixie Davis claimed to have seen "a big lockbox full of money, bonds and coins," adding that Schultz spoke about burying the loot so that the government would never get it, Hendley said. Live Science is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. If the hoard still exists, its under twenty feet of roadway within walking distance of the old Palace Chop House. It would be found by now if someone was useing a Metal detector if it had gold in it or clues were shown that it exists and has a pressense somewhere. If so, someone who finds a tree with an X carved in it just might hit the jackpot. The map that Im posting below does have the clues you are looking for. Im very sure with the termoil in Dutchs life after his not guilty verdict and 14 months of seclusion in Fairfield CT. the first item on the list of things to do before celebrating would be grabbing the loot out of the ground along a nine mile stretch of hard road 7 hours away on the trip home!! 1 in 1933 and taken in by authorities the following year. But whether this spot is true or not Im not too interested in. And I encourage the fun adventure. According to Unsolved Mysteries, Schultz was named Public Enemy No. This makes the area of Phoenicia a favorite location to search. At one point he was raking in approximately $12 million to $14 million per year from the lotteries alone, Hendley said. Then he had the case on the top floor of the Bridgeport Hotel where the US Attorney in Northern District of New York was allowing him to stay. Born Arthur Flegenheimer to German-Jewish parents in 1902, Schultz began a career of lawbreaking when he was still a boy in the Bronx. Perhaps Dutch Schultzs treasure is still buried somewhere in upstate New York. Schultz says he was shot over a million, five million dollars. I read somewhere there was (100) stack in the strong box too. When I was young . if it was found , were is the evidence ? The X is a common symbol that is used to marks the spot of where a treasure is buried on a map. Throughout his 33 years on Earth, Schultz followed a path that led to chaos, destruction, and ultimately, a violent demise. Shultzs map carries a lot of crosses or crossings which helped him in hiding the symbolic clues that will lead you to the treasure. The rest of the time he spend in the town was to confuse and mislead everyone who saw him. This is sometimes referred to as the Devils Tombstone. Many of his friends became enemies. He and his bodyguard hid the safe in a secret location in upstate New York, but when the two were murdered, they took to the grave the knowledge of where the treasure was. But like Al Capone before him, Schultz was highly vulnerable to the newly enacted federal income tax law. The symbolic clues on this map are located on the lower right section of the map. I was born in 1942. During the hit, it is possible he was being asked to give up the location. As he grew weaker, his rantings became less and less lucid. You are all wrong, I have a good idea where it is based on other items I found in an area. (The woman in recent years found the hole). The box had six 3/8rod handles with three hinges that held a 1/8plate lid and one hasp w/eye, all items where welded on, then painted with brown rustoilium, along with a large brass padlock with only one key! @ Sam Peppiatt Hey enjoy skin diving in the reservoir!!!! thats why I feel its still out there somewhere. A cross on a map always means a grave, or grave yard, or both. Dutch Shultz intentionally cluttered his map to help him hide the symbolic clues that would lead you into the immediate area of the treasure. Soo right there that tells us after how many people looking for it NO ONE has been successful in finding it. Possible but unlikely in his view: this is not scenic. I believe you by the way u explained how it was found but the bonds in the box are government bonds even if your relative has them he should speak up so everyone knows. good old Dixie Davis contributed. Case File: Dutch Schultz Treasure Location: Phoenicia, New York Date: 1935 Description: The treasure supposedly includes bundles of thousand dollar bills, negotiable Liberty Bonds, gold coins, diamonds, and other gems into a steel plated strongbox, worth more than $50 million dollars. We may earn commission from links on this page, but we only recommend products we back. They denied Dutch an approval, but soon realized Dutchs desire to get Dewey would not be curbed. No coupons." While on his deathbed, Schultz mused about a multimillion-dollar treasure, which would have matured to be between $50 million and $100 million in today's money, should it prove to be real. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. Im not on Team.. Dont let Satan draw you too fast means a clue. That left only one man who knew where the treasure was buried Marty Krompier. His bank balance came under serious scrutiny and it looked like the vultures were circling. Common sense tells me that there is a small possibility that someone found the treasure by mistake. Schultz later branched out into restaurant racketeering extorting protection money from restaurant owners and workers and muscled in on the numbers racket, or illegal lotteries, in Harlem. I myself like to read to increase my historical knowledge and sometimes I bare down on those that cross my path of interest such as the Dutchman. Over the years, Schultz built a reputation as a top bootlegger, racketeer and the first mobster to extort New York's labor unions, said Sullivan County historian John Conway, who wrote the 2000 book "Dutch Schultz and his Lost Catskills' Treasure.". The point mark symbol will define the area of the cross where the church is located as well as the spot where Dutch buried the treasure. No one has tracked it down yet, though random coins in the wilderness give people a sense that they might be near. In the PBS show "Secrets of the Dead: Gangster's Gold," which premiered Nov. 18, three teams set out tosolve the 85-year-old puzzle, tracking down long-hidden tunnels and hideouts and hoping that satellite maps and ground-penetrating radar will lead them to the buried loot. At the end of the roaring 1920s, Dutch Schultzs criminal empire was making more than $20 million dollars a year. He told his friend Marty Krompier where the treasure was buried. In 1920s the area just east of Bridge Street was illegal beer making heaven for the New York area. The whole time I was looking, I felt like I was being watchedha, You have to ask yourself why would he give it up? The son of Jewish immigrants from Germany, he grew up in the slums of the Bronx. But even if it is, its a clue of where NOT to look, most likely. They showed a picture of the hole with the identifying marks of the box that was identified, My sister-in-law hid Dutch under a different name and as a result always wished I had found it. But Dutch had other problems. The Devils Face is the like-image of the Devil, formed from the Cliffside going out of Phoenicia. The box had six 3/8rod handles with three hinges that held a 1/8plate lid and one hasp w/eye, all items where welded on, then painted, along with a large brass padlock with only one key! According to the History Channel, Schultz was a notorious bootlegger, bringing liquor from Canada to New York City through the Hudson River during the Prohibition Era. Schultz reportedly wanted to bury his ill-gotten gains in a place no one would ever find it. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. Before Schultz lost consciousness for the last time, he called out, "French-Canadian bean soup," the Times reported. Schultz is believed to have ordered the killing of Diamond's associate Arnold Rothstein in retaliation, and Diamond himself met a bitter end in 1931, reportedly at the hands of one of Schultz's thugs. Dutch Shultz made an impressive Catskills cipher map that has lasted the test of time. Jun 19, 2021. and $1000. In true pirate-style, it included gold, diamonds, war bonds, and thousand-dollar bills.. The story has inspired a movie (Dustin Hoffman played Schultz in 1991s Billy Bathgate), books, documentaries, a PBS special, and (of course) countless treasure hunters looking for gold in the Catskills. It is a cipher map that will lead you to the area of where he buried the treasure. In Phoenicia, New York, a tidy hamlet in the Catskills, rumor holds that it is illegal to walk down Main Street carrying a shovel. LuLu s real name ( Bernard )Rosencrantz, (sister) Adel Rosencrantz , Mothers Real Grand mother . They maintain the loot . Question is to identify the era of the old woman maybe one generation or two generation from Dutch Shultz age so if he was 33 on 1935 I assume she must be already old at that time. During Schultzs tax evasion case and probability of jail time, Schultz was known to have ordered the making of a waterproof iron chest. Onboard was what the New York Post refers to as a 2 x 3 ft container. We don't know how a mind works, but it's possible, in some instances, when Schultz was saying 'look out', he was referring to the Devil- Look out for the Devil- for he is watching over my treasure and be careful around him. Most people will not believe a read, no offense, they want evidence and look for more truth until satisfied. 10 biggest historical mysteries that will probably never be solved, The 25 most mysterious archaeological finds on Earth. Please email us more information at unsolved@unsolved.com, Got any old pontiac parts from the manhattan chop shop kicking around the estate/asylum Willy? Sam Peppiatt, The strong box was made by an iron worker Tommy Kiehle before april of 1933 it was 3x2x18 deep so it would fit in the trunk of Dutchs bullet proof car. Theres no way you read all that because of the all the words youve mangled in your comments makes you functionally illiterate. Look into the microfiche 35 NY. To find the treasure here is more than just looking into the ground to tell you its there. Well the prize isnt north of town checked 2 miles of over grown trackage, river bank and the ruins of the baseball bat factory the mountains are full of ash trees also checked all the old broken river crossings last fall Much information is included. How difficult could it be? They transported booze down from Canada for thirsty customers. At first glance, this charming Adirondack town seems an unlikely site for world-wide attention during the trial of a famous gangster. He wanted to prosecute Schultz for his illegal policy business, but before that could happen Schultz was indicated on federal tax charges in October 1935. All Rights Reserved. Cant find a lot of info about the Schultz car left in front of the chop house, that told the gunman Dutch was having dinner, who had the car last?..Dont think the cops towed his armored car Dutchs driver was from Harlem sure wasnt sreached by his widow first she was broke for many years after 1935 maybe the man with the car keys, who has the car that should be everyones target X It wasnt him giving a clue because he wanted someone to find his stash..it was him talking and much of the time not knowing what he was saying or who he was even talking to. Of course. Out of the many unfounded treasure the smaller ones would require one man to do the job right and he would keep it to himself. Today, Dutch Schultzs treasure is said to be worth more than $50 million dollars. During his relatively brief life, Schultz became a powerful figure in the New York crime world, earning the nicknames "Beer Baron of the Bronx" and "The Dutchman." Dutch Schultz was an infamous crime boss in New Yorks underworld. I tried digging it up once but my stupid cousin started making noises. Marty krompier was not killed, he was my father . I thank you again. Its not hard to decipher the meaning of the circle that will lead you to the general area. When I say anyone I mean anyone. Archival photo of Dutch Schultz, dubbed "Beer Baron of the Bronx" during Prohibition. These connections included local private investigator Bruce Alterman and the grandfather of documentary director Elizabeth Trojan, who worked for Schultz as a heavy. Some of these cellars were uncovered during the building of the I 280 roadway in 1956. The first case ended with a hung jury, and he was acquitted in the second one. While on his deathbed in 1935, Schultz rambled incoherently about a $7 million dollar fortune he had buried in upstate New York. I dont doubt that . He was a truck driver back during prohibition and hauled booze with his cousin down from Canada. Its not what we know of their personality type. A rival learned of the map, and shortly after Schultz was shot, obtained the map during a botched hit on Marty. His fortune was estimated between $5 million and $9 million at the time; today it would be worth between $50 million and $100 million. hmmm, their lying because if that her father why havent she answered back shes liying. Its what I do, I decipher treasure maps. To support his family, my dad had l left school after the 8th grade, took on a litney of meanial jobs at minimum wage or close to it. I think he and Lulu hid it either where they rode daily in Fairfield, CT perhaps in a subbasement of the house on Campbell that was built in 1935 not far from the stables and on the path they rode. 2023 Copyright. The book begins with the shooting at the Palace Chop House and flashes back to scenes drawn from Schultz . tern bot that i beleve, How could you look at all the FAKS when you cant even SPELL it? Recently, I had the chance to go exploring in . Past Factory notes that his gangster name could have come from the company he became associated with, Schultz Trucking. This is the ending for me on the whereabouts of Dutch Shultz buried treasure. (or maybe he did?). 1 by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, was tried for tax evasion by Thomas E. Dewey, who later became governor of New York, but he avoided conviction (unlike Capone). And they were very afraid that he was bringing additional heat upon them with these killings.. I scouted the area for where I could keep the Devils Face (the Cliffside) in view, for I wouldnt want to be too close, or drawn in too fast as Schultz might have related. The Post covers the making of a 2020 PBS documentary, Secrets Of The Dead: Gangsters Gold. There was no mention of the buried treasure. It has been found! There has been bigger treasure buried by more than one man and at the end of the job only one man new of its location, figure that? Learn how your comment data is processed. His biggest enemies were Legs Diamond and the IRS. The gold with the Iron Box weighed 1,800 lbs.!! the map stolen from him was stolen by my great uncle and his partner in which they found it and returned it to my great grandfather who now lives in an estate in upstate NY. I looked for a location of where he might have buried his treasure with this in mind. With the pressure building, Schultz finally surrendered to authorities in Albany, New York. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. There was a fear he was going to retaliate and murder Thomas Dewey; the prosecutor who had went after Schultz for tax evasion. He also put the squeeze on restaurants pay up or wind up on the menu. Thanks again. In this case the map represents the large area in question and the large circle represents the general area, but in order to find the immediate one you must first identify the symbolic key or clue that will lead you into the immediate location. Schultz was killed by members of the notorious hit squad "Murder, Inc." in 1935. One secret took the form of a steel strongbox. Schultz's Millions. After a life of murder, bootlegging, and . The end of the road for me will come as soon as Im done explaining Dutch Shultz cipher treasure map which I will do for those who are looking for more information pertaining to the map. San Peppiatt Please just try it ,okay? There was an article about it being found in a magazine in the late 60/s or early 80s.. It was still a great trip and that rock formation is the neatest looking thing..! So the last words of Schultz, recorded by a police stenographer during the night of the 23/24th, are of extreme interest, and may include hints to where he hid his treasure. Its a good time for me to move on to the next treasure. Her writing has also appeared in Scientific American, The Washington Post and How It Works Magazine. Should be at the same era of shultz or little older any idea? Where exactly he hid his treasure is the mystery. But Schultz soon discovered that crime was more lucrative than a day job. Bruce Alterman, author of the book Fear in Phoenicia: The Deadly Hunt for Dutch Schultzs Treasure, told the Times Union that its believed that Rosenkrantz made a treasure map but its unclear if the map was ever recovered. If you can decipher the clues on the right hand lower section, then you could be the first one to get to the spot. Did Schultz plant some vegetables after burying his gold, perhaps? Or maybe to hide the loot. In October 1928, Noe was shot and killed by members of Diamond's gang. Dutch Schultz was an infamous crime boss in New York's underworld. It all started when Prohibition was passed in 1919. doing research Ive learned the gangsters of that era did many things in code,so why not a map? Dutch Schultz was born Arthur Flegenheimer on August 6, 1902, in the Bronx section of New York City. On October 23rd, 1935, Dutch Schultz, who was a major player in organized crime, was gunned down at the Palace Chop House in Newark, New Jersey. In the 1930s he was targeted by both the IRS and special prosecutor Thomas E. Dewey. Hi djjmciv, It is known Schultz was delusional and didnt know what he was saying most of the time. Schultz was annoyed with Dewey and met with the Commission asking for permission to take him out for his irritating investigations. Before succumbing to his wounds, he allegedly talked about the hidden treasure in the hospital. This is commonly known and we even saw legends of places where the Devil has left his mark written on a sheet a paper, on a trail board, while searching around the area. I dont see it being buried I think he hid it in one of his hideing places he had from bootlegging. Biography and associated logos are trademarks of A+E Networksprotected in the US and other countries around the globe. I hope to find time down the road to go over my library so I can send you the books that I might not use. Excellent work in hiding the clues. On the night of October 23, 1935, Schultz and four of his associates were shot at a restaurant in Newark, New Jersey. Dutch Schultz was a classic example of someone being at the right place at the right time. A treasure buried in Upstate New York may be worth up to $100 million, according to a new report from the Times Union. If you get to the rapids by the rock dam and find a Swiss Military Watch with a black face. Krompier survived the attack but he was never able to locate the treasure without the map I personally believe the treasure of Dutch Schultz was buried and theres a good possibility that it still exists today.. I recall reading that plant has been recovered. Many questions about its outcome are still asked, and because answers to these are not decisive enough, the possibility that this is an actual lost treasure, still to be found, exists. From there, Schultz fell in with the formidable Joey Noe, who ran a speakeasy. Check with a metal detector near the grave of an old woman at the back of the Hudler Cemetery close to the drive way; QED. The show, which airs Nov. 18 on PBS, follows a pair of Canadian treasure hunters, Steve Zazulyk and Ryan Fazekas, who believe they are closing in on the gangster's cache. At the time of his murder, he was believed to be tangled up in an elongated list of illegal acts ranging from running alcohol up the Hudson River during Prohibition to robbery, murder, and everything in between.
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