eyJtZXNzYWdlIjoiZTZlMDJhOTRkZTQzNmVlMTQyMzYxOTQ0NGUzOTljMzg0 Since your provinces are few and have much more tax/production than manpower, you'd rely on mercs for war, as you will also have more than enough money to support your merc infantry. Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. For more information, please see our M2QwMDE1ZDY3ZGI2ODk0MmEyODZkYWZlM2RiOGJlMWJkNTYxNTM0OGIzYzM5 ODc4NjZhMzU0OTM5Njc5ZWFhMGQ3ZGNlYWRlY2NkZjRjZDU2NWQxMDUyMjVk ZWRmNGI4ZjFlIn0= MGNlYTQ0YTYxOTc5NjlmYTI5NzI5ZWE0YWRlNzEyM2M1ODJkM2NmZGUxNmY3 I'm on my second Holland -> Netherlands play through on this patch. I think econmoy is good early idea for netherlands as finsining it has 20% reduction in development costs. NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING Ludi et Historia 159K subscribers Join Subscribe 10K Share Save 204K views 10 months ago #eu4 #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands In This EU4. Y2FjODY0ZGQzMzkzZTBiMDY0ZGExZmU5YzE4ZTUzZTE0ODA1ZDVlMDU0OWM5 OWExMWEwZWM1NTVhMDNmOGQ2YjBmNjZjNGU3MDhjYjA2MjBkZjIzYjMyMzU0 All rights reserved. Third idea should then be either Exploration, to get colonies going, or a military idea of your choosing. When you're still small and vulnerable, you can't risk getting behind in military tech while you won't be expanding fast in the Low Countries due to high development and AE. ZGFhNTIzNTRlMzAxZjRmN2QxZWJmMzcwZmVhYzcyYzZhMmRmMTkyNzI1MmE5 New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Both have +0.3 RT in their ideas. It's possibly the most universally viable idea group, and even though you'll be using a lot of mercs as the Netherlands, you'll still be dangerously small with low manpower and force limit early on, and until your trade income takes off you're going to have to field a lot of your own troops. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I also kept the Rothenburger ideas since forming Franconia (I wanted to have no penalties from heretic provinces, which is their first idea). Oh and the only DLC I have is common sense and art of war just so you know. I love Diplo. Hum, I'm a bit fearful of quickly endind by being eaten by France or Burgundy, as I never played in this region. Cookie Notice Any suggestions for a newbie friendly nation for my first playthrough? NTFmMzVlNzA3ZTM0OThlZmQwYTM2ZmVlMDkwZDJjMjIyMzgwNTY0MmJhZmEw Scan this QR code to download the app now. EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland The Red Hawk 103K subscribers Join Subscribe 3.5K Share 125K views 8 months ago #eu4 #europauniversalis4 2nd Channel:. MmZmMzFiMmJmYzcyNjBjYzJjMDRmNmQyNGExMzJlZjQ5MzlmNWNkZTNmMDc5 YTgyMzVjYzcxYTI0YTU2NmFkNmE0MTRiYTAzODNjMDM2MDdjNzk0NTM3NWM4 My problem is trying to figure out the development/tech/ideas ratio. NTVhOTM3MmI1NWY2OTNjZGY1YzlkNWM0NzkxMWU0ZTE2NmQ4ZjlkMGUwZmVk #eu4 #europauniversalis4 For the practical guide on idea groups, with analysis and recommendations, see Idea groups guide.. As a nation develops technologically, it unlocks the ability to gain additional idea groups.Investing into a full idea group can take a long time and cost several decades worth of power. Awesome game, first decades are challenging since you can't expand very fast but if you limit yourself to the low countries and conquest of coastal centers of trade in Africa + Indian Ocean + Far East you can rack over 1.000 ducats/months of income and >1.000 development in the low countries alone (lowest dev province at 30 . You can colonize and have probably the most cost effective land for deving in Europe. So I'm currently doing a Rothenburg -> Franconia game, and it's my first time playing tall. YmQ3ZWZjZTg4ODMwODUzNzRhNzE0NmRjNWMwNmMxNGE2MzgxZWRkNzI2YWIx ZGVmYzFlOGMxNDI1ZWNkNTEyOWYxN2Q0MzIwNmU5YTlmNWUyOWVmZTU5Zjc3 I am tight, tall, high quality and ready to roll out the Merchants and fleets on to my global infrastructure. MzIwMzllZGU4NjQ5YTk1NTM2NGE0Nzk4NDM1YTNkNDdkY2E2NmVkMjkyNTAw In This EU4 Holland Guide we start as Holland, get independence from Burgundy and Play Tall with few provinces and get more income than anyone elseHere's the version of this video where you fight the independence war! I did start with Exploration first though, every time I'm playing as a minor (Flanders for example) I pick Exploration first. I take trade in the first four ideas, because my Holland games are all about starving the rest of the world of ducats. The challenge mostly depends on your starting situation and how much you limit yourself throughout the campaign. Your lands are very rich, you are at an end node, and you can colonize if you want. *shrug*. I don't really know what to do do now, bare bulliyng the Ming (who is already falling appart as I've eaten all his tributaries), or wage unterminable wars against Spain for the few isles they have in Philippines. Valve Corporation. ZTU3NGY1YjE5NDllNjliZTEyMGQ0ZTM5NTlkNTgzZTcwZGQ2ZjllZGE2MjA2 So my current goal is to do a tall Holland to Netherlands run and form a colonial empire. The rest is ok, i don't usualy go for plutocracy because it's not available but it looks good, +10% Morale +20% Mapower Recovery +2.5 Merc Discipline seem pretty good for a single idea group. playing as an opm the entire game is an even smaller chunk of the community than building up a whole region (say Ireland or the Netherlands as an example). My Idea Groups for Holland. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands YTc4ZWY3N2QxYTAwZTZhMTkwYWRlZmYwYTY3YjNjMWY3ZWQ1Nzg4Mjc5NWI3 Makes for awesome siege ability, and the extra 20% FL also seems like something Holland would like. ZjBlN2NjYjIxZWFjZmY5ZTIyYzg3MGM2MTdlMThlZTQxYTczMGYzYjdmNzk5 Yjg5MjUwZWFiMTExZjU4Njc2NDI0NzNjODJlNzliZWRjNTNjMGIyNGI5YjQ4 Lucrative trade opportunities, locally and overseas, have resulted in a swift evolution for the country into one of the first capitalist countries in the world. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. As Holland into the Netherlands, you want to go colonial so exploration and expansion are mandatory. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I did start with Exploration first though, every time I'm playing as a minor (Flanders for example) I pick Exploration first. MjBmZGIxYjhhMTM3MTM2Mjk4NWNmMWVjMWFjNzllNTdlNGE1NDkxODU3ZGJk Venetia going into the the mamelukes and then going for Hormuz etc. Europa Universalis 4 Wiki Active Wikis AoW: Planetfall Cities: Skylines Crusader Kings 3 Empire of Sin Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Imperator: Rome Prison Architect Stellaris Surviving Mars Surviving the Aftermath Vampire: The Masquerade Victoria 3 ZDFhZjI3ODdhMTZjYWFmMWRjMGQ3YWViMmY1MjAyYzM4M2VmYzdhZWYyMzgw With EU4 1.33 France releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. Scan this QR code to download the app now. 5. universe2844 3 yr. ago. This is because the aspects that are central to playing tall (building slots, trade goods, trade nodes etc) become accessible by just taking more land as well. -----END REPORT-----. I thought I might share my thoughts on idea groups/strategy for Holland. Peasant republic. You are using an out of date browser. If you want to dev the shit out of provinces, Hamburg or Aachen could do. Maybe Offensive instead of Quality? Traditions tech cost -10% and idea cost -10%; first idea development cost -20%. Thanks for the replies everyone but without the ability to ask country`s to support my independence I am going to leave the Netherlands be for now. N2E5NTFjNGI1ZDAyMDJhMjAwMmI0MTI1MDYxOGVjOWUwYmQ5ZjY5Y2RhNmQ0 Normally economy and trade are subpar idea groups because you're trading monarch points for gold. Egalitarians prefer freerange, organic xenoburgers. MTA4ZmFjOTQ1M2U3YWMzZDI5YWY2MCIsInNpZ25hdHVyZSI6IjQ3M2I0ZWEz Generated by Wordfence at Mon, 1 May 2023 16:24:03 GMT.Your computer's time: document.write(new Date().toUTCString());. I think diplomatic and trade ideas are well suited for building small but tall countries (ally to fight your wars, trade for money which gives you mercs). The low countries are my go to tall play, namely Holland, you become quite safe after getting independence since you join the HRE. Some Dutch minor into the Netherlands? A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. With economy and dutch ideas your capital has -40% development costs. I own every Franconian province, and only them. Gives your military an edge, economy helps keep the ducats flowing so you can build infrastructure and it unlocks a +5% discipline policy. The only advantage it has is the +20% Infantry CA from the policy with Quality. The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above Youtube members in the save-games Discord channel. I've just played a Ayuttaia game that I'm dropping, because it becamed quite boring after I united the whole Malayan lands, becoming N1 in dev and income, and also due to lack of events or mechanics for SE Asia. Switzerland is fun playing defensive and using your troops as mercs to earn money. Also, with provinces being as highly developed as they are, the corecost reduction is especially sweet. The biggest question is when you should unlock them. After watching this EU4 Holland guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign. NmQ3YmIxMjI5OWQzODA4NTY1M2JiYjY0N2RkNDAwYjFjMzY5NWI1YTEwZDA3 if you want a really tall campaign take breda in your independence war. if I wouldn't pick Exploration first, I would definitely not take a military one but an administrative. ZTc4Mzg4YzQwZWQyYTBjMjllOGI1NWZiMDE5NGUxZTgwZTFkNGU0OGEwZmM2 Playing tall is my preferred playstyle, and I can tell you that you can play a fun, successful, tall campaign just about anywhere, even mountainous Switzerland (one of my favorite areas and my most recent tall campaign). NjgwNWQyMGEyNzA1YWUwZTU0NGZiNTI1N2IxOTQ0NjY3YTZjZDlhYTJmOTBi So Espionage is an option for the -20 AE because you will always be waiting on AE to die down. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What others should I be looking at to play tall in the HRE? I recently did a run as the Netherlands as Holland and man, first time I felt a navy was actually worth something - with a sweet navy limit of 400 ships, the amount of money you can get is insane, I think I had a positive profit of 400 ducats a month. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands I would go with Exploration, you want to be as competitive as you can be in the coloizing game. Mjk5MWQ4MjI0MDM2ZjRlNDA2YzFhYWRjYmMwMzg3ODY2Njk0ZTdhZTJkNDVm NjdmYWI3ZTFlNmM0YmVhOTliZGM3MzQzNmVjOGNiODMxYmExYmRiNTIyMDc2 Maybe administrative for mercenary cost bonuses. . YzI0ZmIwNjY2ZmQwNTQxZDdlZjYwOWY2ZjA2OWE5M2FlNjVhMjFmM2Y1MzM3 and our Yzg0MzAxYTBmMDFhNDkxNmM5ZTE1Njg1OWZhYTllZWY0YjBiZTJhZmRiMGQw I picked up europa universalis just a couple days ago and want to do a campaign as the Netherlands as my first serious game. 2nd Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWpgb8x6L5pCuakP_137lqADiscord: https://discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHdTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theredhawkliveTwitter: https://twitter.com/TheRedHawkYTBecome a member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRjWr3pAEaBvi0u6bdexTw/joinIn this video titled EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland I make an EU4 Guide for Holland for Europa Universalis 4 1.33 France. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thread starter Johnhawkwood; Start date Apr 23, 2018; . ZGJmMDAyODI0ZTA0YjE4MDExZmI5NThmMTAzYTVhMzdhOWY5OGVjYzJhMzA0 Scan this QR code to download the app now. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Republic#Republican_Dictatorship. The Dutch are emerging as one of Europe's most capable naval and colonial powers. MjExNzJiNDY0OWFmMGIwMTJhMjgzM2JjYTUwN2Y5ODc3YjM4Y2EzMmJhMDM2 YTM4ODg4YTdjNmJiZjEzNTIwNDdkNTVmZGVmNDg2ZjE1YTExMzMwNjgzYmZl Y2ZkNjRiZTlmYjU1YWQ3NWJkNmNkZmYxMzY1N2NhYmZmMzhiMzE2NDQ2ZWY4 If you are sitting too long at 100%war score burgundy will automatically realease you without any penalties and the ability to get the BI, but if the BI goes to Spain or Austria you'll have a hard time forming the dutchies. Can play Dithmarschen who has too, for extra challenge. YWUxYmEzYjcxZDViODc1MDZkYTllMTQ1ZWMwY2VlODljN2Q0MmY0NzBiY2I5 If you're going exploration 3rd, you might as well grab diplo and just steal other peoples colonies. After that, you can mix and match to suit your playstyle, but be sure to include production efficiency +20% followed by goods produced +20% and a morale +20% to stack with the peasant republic bonuses. Europa Universalis IV. Lucrative trade opportunities, locally and overseas, have resulted in a swift evolution for the country into one of the first capitalist countries in the world. Some other suggestions would be Denmark, Bavaria, Papacy, and Naples. YTA1YTk5MjhhYmVmYjI3NWRmZjUxN2Y1ZGU3MDU0ZWI3ZjQ4ZGJlM2MxNjY1 https://youtu.be/N97_INwKhBI PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ludiethistoria TWITCH http://www.twitch.tv/ludiethistoria DISCORD https://discord.gg/TjNRkGnYkwCheck out my Twitch Vods Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCri3qYX24n8cpPp2g4xtA4Q You can Also Check My Personal Channel Here! https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludisan More Starting Moves Guides in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsZC4e_2qJ_CfLMUMsP4d2ylMwdxWPrE Europa Universalis IV is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. This guide covers the opening moves, getting independence form Burgundy, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! OWZlYmQyMzE5ODljZmYyZTk1YWVlN2JiYTYwZWFkNWUzNTMyZTU0YzllNTk1 MmUyMGQ4OWJmMDZiYjQzNjkyNGFmMjZlOWQ3MzkyN2ZjNWFlNjllYjkwODU1 OTE2ODdmZTYwN2ZjYThmNTYxOTQyMzdiMGFkYWM1YWRkOGQwMThmMzE2YmZj Some general advice would be nice as well. YjMxMWI5YWJlZTg2MDM1MzNmMjk4NGNkNDJmYWY3YjVjMjcyMjRjNzEwODUw JavaScript is disabled. YjIwYjI3MTRjYjYxMzI0ZTYwMTg4YmQ0NTQ1NjlmNWVkZGE2MmEzZDU0YWVm Usually, I take economic and quantity and take exploration and expansion as third and fourth idea groups. MTVhMzA0MDNkM2I1NTMyNzg2NGJjNDEzYmE3NTI1MjYzMmYyNDIxNjc3YjMz Archived post. I find Administrative as a first ideagroup to be even more awesome for Holland. You can do some real damage to armies with the swiss home guard in mountain forts! OGI4NWIyYzhjNWQ0N2JjNTEwMGM1NGJiMTc0YjUxMGJkNTk2M2ZmMzg3ZTY5 What do you think are good idea groups for small but tall nations? EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, When Murder Solves Everything - a CK3 Flanders AAR, http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096305352/. If you believe Wordfence should be allowing you access to this site, please let them know using the steps below so they can investigate why this is happening. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Your access to this site was blocked by Wordfence, a security provider, who protects sites from malicious activity. You must log in or register to reply here. Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. Zjc1ZTllNDQ1OTYzNWQyNTFmYzMyY2MyMzE5YmVmMGI4YWM0OWIzZDA5ZWY0 Let them come. After countless patches and DLCs, you can finally comfortably build up your nation without conquering vast swathes of land! Archived post. For the ideas of American natives, see native ideas. Try to make the silk road! You must log in or register to reply here. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Archived post. ZGU1ZWRlNGE5NWY5Y2JjMGIxZDdkNjJhNzgzNzA4MDI1NzkwYWNmYWEyYmMz